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Victoria: I’m happy to give up phones Facebook and all of that jazz and go back to dvds cds and a phone of the all that uses actual wires to contact people if it ment stoping these things but here’s the truth these have nothing to do with our day to day uses. They don’t even have a tenant ready to use them so you cant say who or what they would be used for. We dont want them. End of story
Transcript:
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I’m Chloe Humbert, and I’m sorry, but we have to do this again.
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Yes.
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Oh, gosh.
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The AI data centers, the hyperscale data centers, these data centers, they’re pushing.
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No, we don’t need them for your photo roll.
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Like they’re not needing for your banking.
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They’re not needed for your
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backing up your photoroll to the cloud.
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They’re not needed for email, whatever.
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We’ve been through this, but apparently we need to go through this again.
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Because allies and people,
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you know,
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that ostensibly think they’re on,
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you know,
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the right side are buying into these frames.
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And
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I feel like it’s really important to go over this because,
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and I’ll start out by saying,
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like,
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I just saw a post on social media by Timnit Gebru and about the boosters and the
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doomers being part of the same TESCREAL.
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bundle.
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And,
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you know,
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how Bernie Sanders,
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unfortunately,
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and a lot of people,
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a lot of well-meaning people have just bought into the false frame,
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the false setup.
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And, you know, this has been debunked, like boosters and doomers, they’re the same picture.
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They’re part of the same PR push.
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They both, you know, make
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AI seem like it’s oh so powerful and wonderful.
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You know, either it’s really good or really bad.
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And either way, it’s, you know, propping up an industry which is shoddy.
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It’s a shoddy technology.
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It’s flawed.
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It’s error-prone and all of that.
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And I, yeah, I could rant on about that.
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But there’s plenty of debunking of this, you know, boosters and doomers, the same picture.
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You can go find Timnit Gebru’s stuff.
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Emile Torres has a bunch of, you know, explanations about how this propaganda works.
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So.
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That’s not what I’m talking about here.
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But it’s along the same lines,
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because it seems like the same problem where there’s a lot of this,
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like where there’s bad framing and almost like a controlled opposition premise that
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gets bought into.
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And it just reminds me of all the complaints that,
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you know,
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a lot of Democratic voters have about Democratic politicians,
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you know,
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like that they buy into the frame of,
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and it’s a loser leftism,
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or sorry,
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loser leftism is the David Graeber concept.
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But loser liberalism is something that Dean Baker has a book on this, like, and it’s like where
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You buy into the opposition’s premise and then you’re losing the plot.
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You’re basically losing your own agency, basically, to have anything else, right?
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Because once you buy into their premise, you’re locked into their framing.
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And their, you know, all of that.
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So another example of this being locked into like,
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you know,
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a bad frame or a bad faith,
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like kind of a situation that isn’t quite right is like how the
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Solar industry lobbyists, you know, get called, quote unquote, environmental groups.
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And then politicians can hop on that and say,
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oh,
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well,
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we’re environmental because all of these environmental groups are backing us.
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But really, they’re a bunch of industry groups.
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Maybe I have to go into that too.
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Yes,
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nonprofits are lobbying groups,
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you know,
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and they could be lobbying groups for good causes,
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or they could be lobbying groups for industry,
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and industry is industry.
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Industry has different interests than,
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like,
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you know,
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your grassroots,
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your,
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you know,
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community members,
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people who just live in your neighborhood,
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right?
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So,
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like,
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it’s a different position,
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and sometimes those interests can align,
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and then sometimes they’re at odds,
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and...
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We need to be clear-eyed about this and not buy into the claims of people who we
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think are acting in good faith when they’re not.
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So, gosh, I was reminded of this.
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It’s just, it’s the propaganda, okay?
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So it’s the so-called gotcha.
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Like, it’s a gotcha kind of propaganda where the AI data center developers and even
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crypto people I’ve seen doing this, which is even more bonkers.
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But the data center developers and trolls online,
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of course,
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and all the advocates for the data centers and fossil fuel and the power plants and
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And they will use this gotcha,
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supposedly,
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it’s a fake gotcha,
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to promote data centers and shut down people’s opposition by saying,
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if you use the internet
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then you have to accept these data centers,
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these monstrosity data centers,
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these monster palaces of genius,
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as Donald Trump referred to them.
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He literally said he thinks that AI should be called supreme intelligence.
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So he knows.
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He knows what’s in these Monster Palace data centers, these hyperscale data centers.
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They are not your photo rolls, okay?
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You know,
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some of these people truly believe that we need AGI gods that they can manipulate
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to control us all.
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Like Larry Ellison wants everyone watched all the time and all our hospital and the
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hospital regulators,
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too,
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to be automated.
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Like, these people are not...
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They’re detached from reality, let’s just say it plainly, okay?
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So these people are not talking about the internet you and I use daily,
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you know,
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for normal things,
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okay?
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They’re not talking about the hoi polloi.
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They’re not talking about our internet usage.
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They’re talking about theirs.
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They’re not even talking about normal business usage of, like, the Shopify cart.
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So these aren’t even for,
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like,
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normal,
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regular business,
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like mom and pop businesses,
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or even...
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just regular business use.
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They’re not for that.
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So they’re not doing this gotcha in good faith.
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When they say, if you use the internet, if you shop online, it’s not good faith.
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And of course, some good people, some innocent but duped people, some good faith people are
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Do buy into this and then repeat this false premise because they don’t know.
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Or, you know, they’re just not thinking it through.
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And we need to stop doing that.
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We need to stop doing that.
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We need to stop buying into the industry shills’
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gotchas and nonsense, because these people are ops.
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They’re trolls.
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They’re industry shills.
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They’re at town meetings.
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They’re on social media.
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They reply to my newsletters, too.
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They reply to my newsletters telling me that, like, you know, I need to educate myself.
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about crypto and ah lada lada lada anyway um and apparently they also reply to the
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Boondoggle author which it makes sense because if they are replying to my
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newsletter they’re certainly replying to more popular and more prominent
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newsletters of course they are so apparently they are
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replying to Pat Garofalo’s newsletter.
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And Pat did it.
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He fed the trolls.
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I’m sorry to pick on Pat Garofalo because his,
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Pat Garofalo has done some really great reporting on corruption around data
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centers,
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around AI and the gambling economy,
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and all of that.
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There’s lots of good things.
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Recommend this newsletter entirely.
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I do. Okay.
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But I need to use Pat’s comment as an example because it’s not just him.
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It’s not just him.
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It’s a lot of us are falling into this pitfall trap that’s 100% high-test bullshit.
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And that’s what it is.
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So in his latest newsletter piece about data centers,
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which is otherwise very good,
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Pat Garofalo said,
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quote,
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and yes,
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before the complaints roll in,
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I know data centers are necessary even just to read this post,
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unquote.
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And this is buying into the lie.
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This is just, it’s
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It’s not.
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No.
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Because you don’t need these hyperscale – you certainly don’t need crypto plants.
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You certainly don’t need tire-burning cryptocurrency data center plants.
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to read a newsletter.
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You just don’t.
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Okay.
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And I watched a recent webinar by Halt the Harm on data centers,
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and it had a presentation by someone named Ashley from Honor the Earth,
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which is an organization
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pushing back against data centers on or near indigenous lands.
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And Ashley’s slide deck included a screenshot from the U.S.
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Department of Energy Office of Indian Energy Policy and Programs.
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This is a government-made infographic, apparently.
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Okay, so this is from the government.
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Again, they know what’s going to be in these data centers, you know, the supreme intelligence.
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God, oh, what clowns.
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But
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So,
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yeah,
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this is a government made infographic and it shows the different types and sizes of
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data centers.
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And hyperscale is at the far end.
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It says, quote, extremely large and massive scale operations upwards of 50 megawatts.
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Right.
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Upwards of 50 megawatts.
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This is not,
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you know,
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medium to large enterprise,
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customized infrastructure for large organizations.
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It’s not even that.
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Okay.
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We’re talking about large facilities.
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And that’s just not needed for your photoroll.
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Or we’ve had banking data.
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All the world’s banking data has been...
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Okay, another slide deck by Ashley of Honor the Earth.
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The slide I’ll describe, it’s titled Data Centers versus Hyperscale Data Centers.
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And it says, quote, traditional data centers...
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are temperature-controlled buildings full of computers to store,
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process,
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and serve data along with support systems for power,
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cooling,
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and security.
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They’ve been around since the 1940s.
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And hyperscale data centers are massive facilities,
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10,000-plus square feet,
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built to house the machines used for cryptocurrency and,
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quote,
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to power generative artificial intelligence AI,
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unquote.
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So this isn’t for your banking data.
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Again, it’s not for your email.
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And last year,
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I had debunked this before when PA Senator Rosemary Brown was saying we’re guilty
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if we use online shopping and have our photoroll backed up to the iCloud.
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And I explained that all the world’s banking data has been on computers.
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Like, I worked at
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A bank in the early 1990s, maybe 1993, and like it was a DOS computer.
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This is not new.
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Okay, this is not new.
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The world’s banking data centers like don’t need this.
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All of the world’s banking data can fit on, you know, don’t need GPUs.
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And oh, and by the way, PA Senator Rosemary Brown has done a 180 on this.
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From that hearing where she was saying,
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you know,
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you’re guilty if you back up your photos to the cloud,
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she’s now backing a statewide data center moratorium.
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So, like, don’t think that people can’t become informed, better informed.
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We can all become better informed and then change our...
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concepts on these things, and politicians can be moved on this.
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PA Senator Rosemary Brown now has backed the data center moratorium.
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PA Senator Rosemary Brown, by the way, is a Republican.
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So, anyway...
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The point being is that you don’t need these for your data backups and your normal
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internet use,
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your internet searches.
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Just because they’re forcing the AI into the search engine, you could just not use that, right?
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So I know they make it difficult.
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It is very difficult to avoid all of the AI crap that they’re shoving at you,
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but we don’t need it.
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We don’t need it.
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What’s new?
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What is new is this need for the GPUs, okay?
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And essentially, what years back, people like me just called gaming video cards.
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You don’t need these for your email.
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You need these in a gaming console or if you have a gaming PC or you’re playing video games.
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video games like that, that’s what those were used for, video editing, that sort of thing.
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And now they need those for the generative AI,
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the large language models,
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and crypto,
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cryptocurrency printing.
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Okay, so, and I have a whole other, I have a whole other podcast recording on why I say
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cryptocurrency printing.
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So just refer to that if you’ve like, don’t at me with that.
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That was episode 20.
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And it’s called the title is don’t repeat crypto propaganda buzzwords.
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So that’s
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I’m just going to refer you there.
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So we don’t need – these big data centers are for crypto and they’re for this AI,
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the AI that,
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again,
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I said we don’t need.
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It’s for large language models.
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It’s not the kind of discrete scientific research or medical research type of machine learning.
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It’s different, okay?
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And there’s plenty of – if you go and look, you will find that it’s just – it’s not the same.
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But okay, what if it was for internet searches and emails or social media?
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What if it was?
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Would you really trade having an indoor toilet and running water in order to be on Facebook?
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Let’s be real.
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Yeah.
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Because that’s what this is about.
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And you could say, oh, well, people are worried about their property values.
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That’s NIMBY, NIMBY, whatever.
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And yeah, it’s like, no, I don’t want a gas turbine pumping out pollution in my backyard.
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I think that’s normal.
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And also,
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working class people can’t afford to eat a home value reduction that puts them
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underwater on their mortgage,
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and then they’re trapped,
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can’t move,
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and also are getting health effects from the pollution the
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noise pollution or the infranoise pollution,
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the air pollution,
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the light pollution,
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all of this causes problems.
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And you’re going to say, well, yeah, that is a problem.
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A working class person can’t just pick up and move if they’re underwater on their
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mortgage because
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the data center put their home value to zero.
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And that’s what’s happening in places.
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This has been reported in Texas.
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It’s reported in Georgia.
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It’s been reported in Salem Township in Pennsylvania.
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There was a whole big buyout.
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They bought
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a whole bunch of land for data centers, right?
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And they left a whole little neighborhood.
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And those people are going to be like, well, we’re going to all be surrounded by industry.
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And then what?
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And then what?
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Right?
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So...
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Yeah.
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So even if it is for the regular Internet, people are not buying into this.
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I mean, I think and some politicians are on the ball with this.
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OK, because one of them is Bill Gaughan, the county commissioner in Lackawanna County.
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And I clipped out a piece from his statement in a Lackawanna County commissioner’s
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board meeting that says it all.
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Here’s Bill Gaughan.
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As I’ve said at previous commissioner meetings,
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I have been at these public hearings,
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as Mrs.
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Munley got up and talked so eloquently about,
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at Valley View High School and in Dickson City and in other parts of the county.
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There are literally hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people who are lining the
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hallways,
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who are spending three to four hours at these public meetings.
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It’s not because they don’t know what’s going on.
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I sat and watched this ignorant,
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arrogant,
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data center developer,
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who,
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by the way,
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wore a turtleneck,
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which for some reason annoyed me in the worst way. (Laughter)
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But he had this turtleneck, and he was the most ignorant, arrogant person I had ever seen speak.
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And a woman got up in Archbald and was asking this man questions,
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and his response was,
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don’t you use Google?
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Don’t you use Google?
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So let’s eviscerate all of the hundreds and thousands of acres of land in
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Lackawanna County so we can use Google,
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so we can help this guy make a billion dollars.
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But let’s not pump the brakes and make sure we regulate the industry and take a
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look at what’s happening in Georgia,
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in Maryland,
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in Kentucky,
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where in Georgia people are turning on their water faucet,
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there’s no water coming out.
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Mrs. Munley pointed out 3 million gallons of water a day.
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one of these data centers is going to use.
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One data center is like powering a mid-sized United States city.
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But God forbid we ask those who are in power to pump the brakes.
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We know,
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and I’ve mentioned this before,
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we know what’s happened in this region with the coal mining industry.
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Were we to stop and believe the coal barons,
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don’t worry,
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just buy from the company’s store,
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go into the coal mine,
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make sure the canary’s alive,
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everything will be fine.
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We made that mistake.
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We made it 150 years ago.
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And it took us decades and decades and decades to come out from underneath it.
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We still see the effects of that.
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I don’t want us to make the same mistake.
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That’s why I sent a letter to Governor Josh Shapiro and all of our state
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legislators,
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our local delegation.
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There’s a Senator, Katie Muth, who circulated a memo asking for a three-year moratorium.
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I’m calling for a three-year moratorium.
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Let’s pump the brakes on this.
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We shouldn’t be concerned in Lackawanna County about making sure somebody else gets
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rich off the backs of our people.
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We have a dump in Dunmore that’s eventually,
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by the time my kids are able to drive,
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going to be the size of the Empire State Building.
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We have a dump in Taylor.
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We have a power plant, one of the biggest power plants in North America in Jessup.
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When are we going to stop taking everybody else’s trash?
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When are we going to stop letting developers and speculators come in here? (Applause)
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Letting developers and speculators come in here and say, don’t worry about it.
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We’ll throw you a couple million dollars, by the way, which everybody could use.
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But they flash this big shiny object at us.
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We’ll buy you a fire truck.
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Maybe we’ll buy you a police truck.
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We’ll fit up your police and fire departments with something.
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And let us just destroy the land and the water and the air.
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That’s not right.
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And that’s why I’ve been to these meetings to speak out.
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It’s not, again, it’s not a political issue.
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It’s not Democrat or Republican.
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When I sat in that audience in Dickson City,
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I had people come up to me and say,
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I hate what you said about ICE,
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but I agree with you on data centers.
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This defies political boundaries.
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This is our county that we must do everything in our power to protect and to defend.
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And at the position I sit in, I have the bully pulpit.
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We all do.
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We should be speaking out
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to protect these people.
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The one thing that we have in this county,
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and that I bought a home in 2021 for the first time,
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the one thing we value and cherish more than anything else is our property.
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It’s our home.
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And that’s why people are speaking out in Archbald and Dickson City and Covington
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and all over the county. (Applause) Thank you.
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And hopefully,
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if my colleagues agree,
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if they review what I just said and they look it over and sanitize it or do
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whatever else they want with it,
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we can post what I just said on social media so that people can actually view what
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I said.
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But we’ll need their approval first before we can do that.
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And that’s all I have to say.
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Thank you. (Applause)
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So that was back in February, right?
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And back in March,
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in the local Archbald Data Center’s Facebook group,
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somebody had posted,
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somebody named Victoria,
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said,
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quote,
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I’m happy to give up phones,
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Facebook,
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and all that jazz,
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and go back to DVDs,
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CDs,
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and a phone
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That uses actual wires to contact people if it meant stopping these things.
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But here’s the truth.
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These have nothing to do with our day-to-day uses.
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They don’t even have a tenant ready to use them,
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so you can’t say who or what they would be used for.
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We don’t want them.
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End of story.
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Unquote.
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And Victoria is right,
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because there aren’t any,
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I already went over this,
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and a lot of them across the country are probably like this.
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They don’t have any end users, so we have no idea.
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And I have said again and again,
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I suspect a lot of the hyperscale data centers they’re proposing...
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you know,
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are for crypto because some of the people involved have been open about their
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cryptocurrency hobby.
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Right.
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So, yeah, we don’t need crypto for our email.
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You use Google, you don’t need crypto.
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You don’t need AI.
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We had Google before they were shoving AI.
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And we know that, like, by the way, those AI summaries, they’re wrong an awful lot.
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They’ve done studies and they show that they give bad information.
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So I wouldn’t trust those.
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So don’t trust anybody saying that we need hyperscale data centers to get our
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newsletters or our emails or our photoroll backups or whatever.
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It’s just not real.
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Don’t fall for it.
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Don’t fall for it and don’t feed the trolls.
